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  Getting Religion

Guess if I'm going to find a woman to take care of me in my old age, I'm going to have to become religious.
In a recent survey, 92% of Americans believe in God. It wasn't gender specific, but I'm guessing it's higher for women.
I had my eye on someone until I found out she was a regular church goer. I'm sure I'd be taboo if she knew I was an 8 percenter. Religion (or lack thereof) cost me (in part) my first marriage. I was the "anti-christ". Her words.

Another thing in that survey defies explanation: "21% of self-identified atheist said they believe in God or a universal spirit, with 8% "absolutely certain" of it."

And just for your information, 74% of Americans believe in life after death and 63% say their respective scriptures are the word of God. I don't have to tell you how I feel about that.


posted on June 25, 2008 8:12 AM ()

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Hi again, Randy.
I think I owe you something of an apology. After writing my last comment to you about this post, I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. I just revisited your reply to my first comment, and it suddenly dawned on me that at least part of that reply was in jest. I didn't see that at first.
Upon re-reading my counter-response, I realize that what I thought was even an even-handed and fair reply comes across as being a little mean-spirited.
You must forgive me. I am not myself all of the time these days. I'm not used to this stress I've been going through as of late.
comment by hayduke on July 7, 2008 8:36 AM ()
Hi Randy,
I was a little taken aback by your reply to my comment on this post. I guess I just thought that folks know the difference between being spiritual and being religious.
You're right; I don't go to church. Although I think I believe in a "higher power" most of the time, I know I definitely do not subscribe to any of the nan'made trappings of an formal religion. What I know is that, when I see a spectacular sunrise, or I am on the sea witnessing the awesome power and beauty of nature, I feel in my heart that there is something more than me in the universe. It is a very private and solitary feeling and "reverance", if you will that is quite different from the sacraments and vestiges of my Polish Catholic upbringing.
Your comment to me of "Perhaps some day you'll see the light in reason and common and sense" disturbed me a bit. Where is the "tolerance" in that statement? I think I missed it. It sounds to me more like an arrogant and condescending put-down. Are you SURE you're right on this topic? Because I must admit that I am not sure about this topic at all.
Perhaps you can explain to me what is unintelligent about searching and admitting that you are not sure one way or the other on this topic. That's where I am.
comment by hayduke on July 7, 2008 5:11 AM ()
My Mary was a regular church-goer. She was even a youth group leader. I cured her. (It's not that I'm an atheist; I'm not. I'm pretty sure I believe in some sort of higher power most of the time. I'm just not religious.)
comment by hayduke on July 1, 2008 9:25 AM ()
I'm not sure what being "religious" means. For me, if one believes in any "higher power" (calling it what you like), he's religious. You just don't go to church, right? Perhaps one day, you'll see the light in reason and common sense.
reply by solitaire on July 3, 2008 10:07 AM ()
Good to live in the land of the free and the home of the brave... It's your choice of whatever you believe. I have two very, very good friends who are very, VERY strong believers. One goes to church 3 times a week. They both married non-believers. One of these friends is no longer alive, having had an aggressive cancer, but she went to her God in peace. Her husband is still a non-believer, married now to one of her best friends, who is also a very strong believer. I don't think the state of your belief system is a big factor these days. Good luck to you in whatever you do...
comment by sunlight on June 29, 2008 7:11 PM ()
It's a "live and let live" world. That can be good and bad. There's no harm in marrying or being friends with either a believer or nonbeliever, as long as the two can accept the other. If one "hurts" the other with stinging comments, then that's trouble. Thanks for your comments. Sorry I discovered them 5 days later!
reply by solitaire on July 3, 2008 10:14 AM ()
Don't write women off just because they are spiritual/ religious. Some of us accept and respect the right to question. Some of us are not judgmental, and don't think a non-believer is the anti-Christ or the road to Hell. I know what it is like to be dismissed for a single belief or behavior. I am a smoker, and even though I don't fill non-smokers houses or cars with my smoke, that single behavior seems to negate every other thing about me, no matter how wonderful a trait it may be. I guess I am advocating tolerance. Know that many religious women are tolerant too, especially if they are kind and compassionate- and sincere.
comment by dragonflyby on June 28, 2008 9:50 AM ()
I don't "write them off". I'm pretty tolerant. I'm the one written off, although I think it's more of a perception than anything. I don't date, so I really don't know. As for the smoking analogy, smoke and smoker's breath is what would turn me off. That's a little different than a personal belief. Thanks for your thoughts.
reply by solitaire on June 29, 2008 8:18 AM ()
You are probably right about it being higher for women. You should still go for it if you are interested. As a Christian she can just pray really hard that God will touch your life and you will become a Christian.
You never know, maybe you can convert her with your "where goeth reason" essay! I do believe in God and I will admit you had some valid points.
comment by frogfenatic on June 26, 2008 11:52 PM ()
Thanks for the thought, Tanya. I think I'll keep things the way they are. As for you and your continuance to believe in a higher power, all I can say is keep an open mind--use your brain to think what I said over.
reply by solitaire on June 28, 2008 6:05 AM ()
Well, here's a thought: Why not start an Atheist's Singles Club.
If no one burns a cross on your lawn, you might meet some
interesting people. A related angle: When we got down to SW Florida,
Ed saw an ad in the same shopper "Jewish Social Club". He was amazed -- thought he was sort of alone. He called the numbers. It was one
old guy in a wheelchair.
comment by tealstar on June 26, 2008 8:06 PM ()
Not a bad idea, Harriet, but in my neck (red) of the woods, that's inviting trouble.
reply by solitaire on June 28, 2008 6:01 AM ()
People of different faiths get married all the time.I can't see why an atheist and a believer couldn't make things work.Now a Holy Roller and an atheist-NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!Laurie
comment by dogsalot on June 25, 2008 7:59 PM ()
Thanks. I respect "believers", really I do. But it's all a matter of degree. Theoretically, however, an atheist is an atheist, despite what I quoted in the post.
reply by solitaire on June 26, 2008 4:55 PM ()
I believe but my husband does not. He says how can you believe in something that no one has ever seen. Even though I believe, I am not a regular church goer. Sitting in church every Sunday does not necessarily make you a Christian. My bosses sister-in-law, a die hard Southern Baptist, would get him to buy her liquor every Friday 'cause she did not want a church member see her in a liquor store. I don't have a difficult time with a non-believer, I have a difficult time with a hypocrite.
comment by gapeach on June 25, 2008 7:43 PM ()
Sorry for the late response, Nancy. I just happen to notice your reply. But your hubby is at least not the anti-christ. It's good to be tolerant.
reply by solitaire on July 5, 2008 7:36 AM ()
As I said in your first post, it's a taking care of you in your old age is a good job for Lucy... I expect you'll outlive me!
comment by catdancer on June 25, 2008 6:30 PM ()
I believed you in the first "Getting Religion" post...
comment by looserobes on June 25, 2008 8:39 AM ()
I noticed that. My computer is still not right. That's my excuse, and I'm sticking with it. And you're right-- teaching science had a major role in directing my philosophies.
reply by solitaire on June 25, 2008 1:38 PM ()
WOWOWOWOWOWOW.....is all I can say this morning!!!!! A wonderful friend of mine can hardly BELIEVE that I am an ATHEIST!!! She'll say funny comments like...."how could that be coincidental??!!!" Both of my daughters believe in god and that is what works for them. I have even had to ask friends to please STOP sending any forwards about god this god that....thank goodness for delete!! It worries me that it is so woven into EVERYTHING!!!!! It makes me cringe when I hear political folks talking about god this god that!!?? Anyhow, friend great post and you will find a woman who will appreciate YOU and your beliefs!! Barb
comment by darkstar on June 25, 2008 8:30 AM ()
Thanks Barb. Great to hear from you. Naturally, like you, I'm very happy being a non-believer. It's who I am, and I don't care if tongues wag.
reply by solitaire on June 25, 2008 1:34 PM ()

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