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  My Response to Amerigobard

I don't normally take these things public, but this one deserves it. I just got the following note:
---- Original Message -----

From: amerigobard
Subject: Re: Re: Reply To Your Comment
Sent: Feb 27, 2008 11:52 AM PST

sorry vladimir, I just don't appreciate your negative and judgmental slams ... avoid hammering on me ... if you wish to avoid being impaled ... metaphorically speaking ... I am genuinely sorry for stooping to name calling ... you came into my site and slammed on me, and blocked me from being able to reply to your comments on your posts, because you are hiding behind your computer screen ...


First, I didn't block you from doing anything. The comments/reply at Blogster are totally fucked up. Ask anyone. Don't blame me for their incompetence. You could've replied to me there -- privately, publicly, doesn't matter to me -- if you had a problem with what I wrote and wanted to discuss it. Instead, you set your blog on private and then came here and resumed your name-calling.

Second, that "negative and judgmental slam" was in response to what you wrote to a good friend of mine.


Martin doesn't need me to defend him -- he did a pretty good job of putting you in your place. What you wrote to him was indefensible. It also shows that maybe you're not quite the peace and love kind of guy you think you are. Telling someone to "eat shit" and calling him a wimp is pretty bad, but it's especially rich from someone who's left the country instead of staying to fight for his own beliefs.

So I called you out for that. The NSA, CIA, ESPN, and the PTA aren't looking for you; neither are the police in Alpine or any SRSU officials. If they were, you're hardly doing yourself a favor by keeping any kind of profile.

I also figured you were a chickenshit who would go private so I took a screenshot of it (further testimony to how fucked up Blogster is -- the graphics are all over the place in some browsers). Thanks for proving me right and doing something so I could post it. I knew it would be just a matter of time -- a week?

I won't accept an apology from anyone whose actions were against a friend of mine unless the apology has first been made to and accepted by my friend. Have you apologized to Martin yet? Or do you think you can push me around and make me out to be the bad guy or harass me on my blog and by sending me notes like this?

I'm not hiding. I'm here and active in my country and its political system. I'm not the one half the world away cowering in fear because I think someone is out to get me. I'm not the one on the other side of the planet -- on foreign soil -- launching political attacks against people who are here fighting on any side of the political spectrum. I'm not the one half a world away telling senior citizens to "eat shit" and mocking their interests.

You are.

Think about that while you're doing your "energy work." Whatever the fuck that is.


posted on Feb 28, 2008 5:41 AM ()

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I haven't seen a post from you in a long time....it's good to read your stuff again! Have you been writing more at the other place? Last time I looked at your blog you had not been on in months, I even asked Mollywould about you and if anything was wrong. I'm glad your back! You're one of my favorite bloggers.

I like Ameriborg, but I don't take him all that serious (sorry Am), If everyone he thinks is looking for him....well he would most certainly be found. (IMHO) Good to see you Vlad!
comment by justmyopinion on Sept 14, 2008 7:54 AM ()
How about your conflict now?
comment by mustakim on June 8, 2008 9:18 AM ()
I don't know when I've had more fun reading a blog....thank you all!
comment by justmyopinion on Mar 15, 2008 8:09 AM ()
It is a cold war
comment by mustakim on Feb 28, 2008 1:41 PM ()
Feel no need to reply but thx for the post Vladimir. I think I misjudged him a lot and will unscribe myself on his blog (i wont tolerate that friends i have here and whom I respect, are treated like the way he did..)
comment by itsjustme on Feb 28, 2008 1:36 PM ()
Feel free to unsubscribe any time. You might want to read my response to Vladimir. People who pass snap judgments on others and go around gossiping about them live in a small-minded world. They bore me.
reply by amerigobard on Mar 2, 2008 6:15 AM ()
Yes... Malaysia is scarcely the land of the free, despite Mahatia's exit.
comment by clovis on Feb 28, 2008 1:26 PM ()
You know, I really don't want to get involved with this. Why don't you two just take it outside?
I happen to enjoy reading both of your blogs.
comment by hayduke on Feb 28, 2008 9:24 AM ()
You know, I really don't want to get involved with this. Why don't you two just take it outside?
I happen to enjoy reading both of your blogs.
comment by hayduke on Feb 28, 2008 9:24 AM ()
well,I missed all the action there.
comment by fredo on Feb 28, 2008 8:23 AM ()
Nahh, you didn't miss a thing.
reply by vladimir on Feb 28, 2008 9:15 AM ()
Vladimir, thanks but don't waste your time and energy on him--by the way I think he went 'unprivate' again
In any case I would rather have you concentrate and write a blog about how inefficient our country is when all the government agencies can't find/kill (as he inferred) one American citizen.
Ignore him--I really believe he (along with 'slacker', the 'dog lover'. jozie, etc.) feels negative attention is better than no attention at all.
comment by greatmartin on Feb 28, 2008 8:13 AM ()
Martin, I apologized to you right after we both chose to behave in a stubborn and mean-spirited way ... you're making all sorts of false assumptions about me.

I'm sorry you were tossed out of the military by homophobes, Martin, but that doesn't make every claim on the part of straight men, something to deride or attack.

I suggest you let go of your admitted bias against straight men and keep your petty and ill-informed opinions to your-self ... when I first joined Blogster, I posted a comment in support of your web-site, and your efforts to make people aware of gay issues.

You jokingly said I should try the gay life, or something like that ... I think you have biases against us straight people, Martin, and that you allow those to create feelings of anger and jealousy because heterosexuals are generally more socially accepted, fair or not ...

Find something better to other than attacking my claims without merit, Martin.

I've apologized already, and it appears you enjoy your victim trip.

Let it go Martin.

I'm sorry I resorted to name-calling after you attacked me for leaving the US. I had good reasons for doing so, and, yes, amongst those MANY compelling reasons why I chose to leave an unraveling empire was because too many people; people like you, attacked the messenger when I discussed the nature of my research findings regarding the 2004 Election fraud ....

Enjoy your weakening dollar and your judgments against the entire straight world, Martin. Do they comfort you?

I'm sorry that you and Vladimir are miserable back in the US, and jealous of me for having the means and the resources to have left the Police State.

I'm confident that your next angry leap of inaccurate pseudo-omniscient judgment will be to suggest that I'm also lying about being out of the US ... stick to the Oscars, Martin, OK?

Oh, and for the benefit of all the other Peyton Place Loving Swill Drinkers in Blogland or the Greasy Zone, if your'e tempted to put another human being on a pedestal, your gonna be disappointed when they fall ...

If you, or Vladimir, or anyone else think that people who try and make a difference have to be perfect in order to be credible, then enjoy your infantile emotional level and get over the fact that I ain't fu(king perfect and "perfect" is an illusion anyway ...

Gossip is for losers and intellectually lazy people ... cowards enjoy gossip, 'cause it makes 'em feel superhuman ... stop hiding behind your age ... you came into my website and attacked my integrity ... I got pissed off and told you to "eat $hit" .... so hang me, Martin ....
reply by amerigobard on Mar 2, 2008 8:40 AM ()
I made this public because of the comment he left yesterday and the tone of his note; it's not a waste of time to that extent. I take it "Mr Love and Peace" hasn't apologized to you yet. Imagine that.
reply by vladimir on Feb 28, 2008 9:14 AM ()
Do you really believe he had a death threat? I don't
comment by lynnie on Feb 28, 2008 8:05 AM ()
As you said in your own blog post:

Gossiping!
Ahhh people, gossiping!!! Don't worry I'm not talking about any blogers here, or on the bugster site but in my own club!
The back stabbing that goes on is enough to give anyone a hernia. I just caught up with the recent boll-ox and was flabbergasted by the level of #### stirring some people will go to to ensure the recipient suffers as a result of an Innocent comment!
The Adults are worse than the kids.
This only happens when I'm not in the club 'Thursdays'... because they know better than to start a war when I'm in the room.
Awwww this has really cheesed me off! Gawd, heads will roll come Monday!

...Like I need this today!

(end of quote)

Ah, Lynnie, I hope that the next time you brag about how much you HATE gossip, ya might want to look in the mirror ... ok?
reply by amerigobard on Mar 3, 2008 1:13 AM ()
No. There are two kinds of exiles. One is the kind who is legitimately persecuted. The other is the disaffected expatriate. The former keeps a low profile. The latter often maintains a high profile and launches attacks from foreign shores. Among the latter are those who have legitimate grievances as well as those who don't. I count this guy among both latters -- un-persecuted with illegitimate grievances. Maybe a mental illness, but I'm no expert on paranoia or delusions.

Why do I not believe him? I don't think someone who attended Sul Ross State University -- which is for all intents and purposes a step above a community or junior college -- is at the top of anyone's enemies list. Especially for the trite crap he brags about writing. If he deserves to be persecuted it's for the pedestrian blight of his "infamous" article on new citizen or whatever website.

There are far more reputable writers who've written much more malicious things about the president and his colleagues who aren't running off to do "energy work" in exotic climes. They do book tours, they do speaking engagements, they feel comfortable sipping their Starbucks like anyone else. Many of them would LOVE to be persecuted to an extent that it might cause them more publicity and book sales. But if they were seriously afraid for their lives, they wouldn't be blogging about their navel gazing or detailing their travels. They also might avoid countries where the people who poisoned Litvinenko and Yuschchenko are known to operate freely.
reply by vladimir on Feb 28, 2008 9:11 AM ()

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